Unpleasant Truth of White Men Slavery in Europe

This is the first post about the slave trade of white people, where I looked at some of the earliest written records of such slavery. It was discovering records about the slavery of my own, Slavic spoken people, which really stunned me since I have never read or learned about it. It as well forces me to realize the possibility that many of my ancestors may have perished as slaves. But just how did that happen? In my mind, the Slavic people are too proud and of a most upright posture, impossible to be fully tamed if shackled. Yet the records I was able to read have proven me wrong in the perception of my own kind of people. It was something I really did not expect to discover while researching about the slave trade of white people of medieval Europe. And it still echoes as an extremely hard fact for my brains to properly absorb.

The slave trade of white people is a less known dimension of the slave trade in general due to a common notion, that only Africans were sold as slaves and were bought or sold only by Europeans. This is of course a historical nonsense since the Africans were first enslaved by other Africans before they were sold to European traders and secondly, the enslavement of Africans by Africans would occur regardless of the European slave traders.

Apparently, there had long been an internal African slave market flourishing already for ages before any European set their foot on the continent.
As we can learn from Akosua Perbi, a researcher of pre-colonial slavery in Africa[1]:

“Bono Manso and Begho in modern Brong Ahafo region became important centers for this trade from 1000 to 1750 A.D.  The Mande Dyula were the professional merchants in this trade.  The West African forest region supplied gold, kola nuts, ivory and slaves in this trade.  Ghana though in the forest region was known to have supplied gold, kola nuts and ivory.  The West African savanna region provided millet, sorghum, wheat, livestock, gum, shea butter, ivory, ostrich feathers, cloth, gold and slaves.  The Sahara contributed salt, copper, tobacco and dates.  From Europe and the Muslim world came textiles and garments made from wool, silk, brocade, velvet or satin; calicoes, metals such as brass, copper, silver, tin and lead.  Other goods from the Mediterranean world were books, writing paper, cowries, tea, coffee, sugar, spices, jewellry, perfumes, bracelets, mirrors, carpets, beads etc.  Ghana obtained slaves through this trade from the 1st to the 16th centuries A.D. .

All the West African states along the Atlantic coast were linked by a southern trade route covering modern Senegal to modern Nigeria.  Ghana, again because of its wealth in gold, exchanged gold for slaves, beads, cotton, cloth and palm oil from the Benin state in modern Nigeria.  From Dahomey and Ivory Coast, Ghana exchanged gold for the famous quaqua cloth.  Shama on the Ghana coast was the entrepot of trade.”

There is another source, a first-hand witness who claims to have seen the presence of intertribal slave trade within Africa of the 19th century:

During my residence in Central Africa I was repeatedly traveling about in the villages along the Congo River and its almost unknown affluents, and in every new village I was confronted by fresh evidences of the horrible nature of this evil. I did not seek to witness the sufferings attendant upon this traffic in humanity, but cruelties of all kinds are so general that the mere passing visits which I paid brought me in constant contact with them.

It is not alone by the Arabs that slave-raiding is carried on throughout Central Africa. With respect to slavery in the Congo Free State, the western limit of the slave-raiding operations of the Arabs is the Aruwhimi River, just below Stanley Falls, but intertribal slavery exists from this point throughout the State to the Atlantic Ocean. During my six years’ residence on the Congo River I saw but little of the Arabs, and therefore in this article I am detailing only my experiences bearing upon the subject of slavery among the natives themselves.”  [2]

The international slave trade of white people is however potentially older than its African counterpart and we can see references to it as early as the ancient Greeks (such as for instance with Homer’s mention[3] of Phoenician slavers operating around the Aegean in the search for more Europeans to be sold at the slave markets of the Middle East).

We can learn quite a lot about the international slave trade of this early historical period thanks largely to the fact that it was a highly profitable business.  It also involved posession of a large amount of capital to purchase the slaves and as such, expressed in modern economic terms, had high barriers to market entry. This means that international trade in slaves left a long documentary trail, some of which has survived to bear witness to this dark chapter in human history.

The main target for slave hunters and owners historically have always been places, where there are large numbers of people, but little centralised government. This is so because the business of slavery is an emotional and delicate one in so far, as if you enslave the wrong person, it is quite plausible to suggest that you will end up getting your throat cut at some point. And in addition to that you need to be able to negotiate with smaller governmental units, such as the heads of tribes and clans, who tend to fight each other and take prisoners (i.e. have a ready supply of potential slaves).

Those prisoners can then be bought as slaves if you can persuade the local authorities – something that is a lot easier and less costly if you also happen to have something that the locals want to trade in exchange. Hence why Roman slavers operating in Gaul before Caesar’s invasion brought large amounts of wine, which they then sold at very high prices to the Gaulish chieftains and nobility, who paid the merchants in kind with large amounts of slaves, that were then transported back to the Roman Empire and sold at another large mark-up. I will address the issue of alcholol distilleries and their ownership later.

This slave trade was carried on after the fall of Rome in the West by Jews and it has long been established in medievalist circles that this was indeed the case. We have two Arab sources from the 9th and 10th century respectively, who directly tell us that the Jews both ruled the slave trade as well as what slaves they were bringing to the lands of Islam.

Here is what Ibn-Khordadhbeh can tell us about the Radhanite merchants and Ibrahim ibn Ya’kub on Prague, where merchants met:

»What comes from the Western sea is the khadam Saqalib and Rumi and Frankish and Lombard boy-slaves, and Rumi and Andalusian slave-girls[4]


»The Rus and the Slavs come from the city of Krakow to Prague with merchandise, which originates in the lands of the Mohammedan Turks, and has been sold to them by Jews and Turks for coins and commodities of slaves, tin and various different furs[5]

Slaves employed in merchant ventures of their Jewish masters are also found in the Hebrew sources of the period.[6] They are a most common occurrence in the Genizah material[7].

A second group of sources starts with the church council of Meaux (845), repeating resolutions of Merovingian synods that forbade Jews and others to buy and sell Christian slaves[8]. The secular counterfoil to the prohibition are some imperial privileges, three of the 9th and one the 11th century. They allow the Jewish people to buy, sell and retain pagan slaves while forbidding Christian ones.[9] Yet other ecclesiastical sources of the period glorify their heroes for saving prisoners and slaves from Jewish captivity.[10] In year 1009 the German emperor is reported to have rebuked an east-German noble for selling serfs to Jews[11].

That the Council of Meaux felt the need to specifically outlaw this and demand that those engaging in such trade be dealt with severely, tells that the Jews must have been a significant presence in the international slave trade of white people and indeed are very likely to have dominated, given the confirmation from other sources. I should also note that the Meaux decree comes before, not after our sources begin to mention this dominance clearly (in addition to previous decrees of a similar nature that preceded Meaux, indicating that in spite of the Meaux decree, the Jews still dominated the trade in enslaved Europeans to the Orient well into the 12th century).

The loophole in this ruling by the Council of Meaux was the specific religious angle of the decree. It only applied to Christians and Jews could still buy, transport and sell non-Christians to whomever they pleased (but had to release them immediately if they converted to Christianity, hence the preference for the Islamic slave market), which explains the Slavic focus in that the Slavs were, at this time, a largely pagan people and as such would been one of the targeted people that Jewish slave traders could utilize.

White slavery was still markedly present throughout the whole 14th and 15th centuries, and white slaves, in fact, represented one of the largest slave populations, although most of the sales contracts of the time specifically failed to mention this fact. It is widely known that the term ‘slave’ may derive from ‘Slav’, which refers to Europeans who spoke Slavic languages.

For instance, there is an excellent research conducted in Spain related to the medieval slaves from Eastern and Central Europe sold in Spain[12], which confirms that the slaves came from the Black Sea area and the Balkans. The author claims that Balkan slaves represented 4.9% of the total slave population registered in the documents examined in Valencia (1375-1425), where Bulgarians were the largest group and the remaining Balkan nations were largely less represented. Men and women were sold as slaves in Medieval and Modern Spain because of suffering hunger, for committing crimes, on behalf of their religious beliefs, due to war, through trade, and also by birth, because of being the children of slave mothers. The enslavement of people from Central and Eastern Europe remained in Spain until the 15th century, when it probably became less profitable, perhaps because of the plagues that ravaged Europe and the demographic conditions as seems to have happened in 1348 with the Black Death in Catalonia.

In the case of Spain, it is also clear that the emergence of new markets and the strengthening of traditional slave routes from the African continent also had its effect on the disappearance of white-men slavery. And it is important to note that the enslavement of Spanish Muslims, Mudéjares  and  Moriscos, was a timely slavery, while sub-Saharan and North African slavery were a constant in the history in Spain.

Learning about these above facts I found myself eager to learn more. So what was going on in Bulgaria and the rest of Balkans in 13th – 15th century? The story of the Bulgarian and Bosnian bogomils can explain why there was a constant flux of slaves from the Balkans.

This story about the people called “krstjani” (“christians”) has been as well oversimplified by those who see the period from the 13th to the 15th century as a glorious time in which the dualist church and state worked together and prospered. In fact, the krstjani efforts to replicate early Christianity and follow an apostolic path were often obstructed by clergy and politicians in Rome and Hungary, who mounted crusades against them, such as the crusades of 1235-39, when Bosnia was devastated and thousands were either burned at the stake or led away into captivity[13].


We know from historical documents that there were signs of Bogomil »heresy« in Bosnia’s neighborhood as early as the end of the 12th century. The Archdeacon Thomas, in his Historia Salonitana (»Chronicle of Split«) relates that a Church Synod in 1185 condemned all »heretics and their supporters« and banned their small monastic houses called »brotherhoods« (fraternitates).[14]

There were peace and quiet in Bosnia till 1216, when the gentle Pope Honorius III, having ascended the papal throne, believing that these heretical Bogomils could be convinced of their heresies by argument, sent subdeacon Aconcius to Bosnia to work on their conversion. But the arguments of the subdeacon proved no more efficient than those of his predecessors: the heresy grew and continuously increased. Northward and northwestward, in the provinces of Croatia, Dalmatia, Istria, Carniola, and Slavonia, which had historically been strongly Roman-Catholic, the number of converts multiplied daily, while at home they were fast becoming the dominant power.

In this emergency the Archbishop of Colocz, in Hungary, stood forth as a defender of the Roman-Catholic faith. Armed with authority from the pope and the Hungarian king, he entered Bosnia in 1222 and used the sword with such good effect, that he had shortly possessed provinces of Bosnia, Ussora and Soy. The Ban Zibisclav, who seems to have possessed very little of the Slavonic pluck, notwithstanding his Slavonic origin, was compelled to abjure his errors and, falling humbly at the feet of the pope, Gregory IX., received from him an embrace – in return for which he dedicated himself, his lands and all the goods he possessed at that time to this service. This was in 1233.

The subjects of the Ban were not inclined to be included in this abject surrender. The violent persecution which had raged for 11 years (1222-1233) had not terrified them, though it had subjugated their Ban, and their answer to their persecutor was the erection of more places of worship and the setting apart of a greater number of djeds, or elders, both for home and missionary work.

Pope Gregory IX. was enraged at the boldness of these heretics. Provence had been overrun and purged of its heresies, the Waldenses had been driven into the fastnesses of Piedmont, and should he be thus flouted by these Serbian BogomiIs? It was not to be an option even for a moment. A new crusade was mounted, and Coloman, Ban of Sclavonia and brother of the King of Hungary, was to lead it. In 1238 he entered Bosnia with a large army in order to exterminate the heretics. The weak and treacherous Zibisclav permitted the havoc and devastation without protest or resistance. Coloman »purged« — so they called it — the whole kingdom, and extended his ravages through the principality of Chelm, which formed the south-western portion of the present Herzegovina. No troubadour has sung, no historian has recorded the barbarities and atrocities of this war of extermination: we only know that many thousands were enslaved. Pope Gregory IX, in 1240, congratulated Coloman on »wiping out the heresy and restoring the light of Catholic purity«, but before his death in 1241, he had discovered that his congratulations were premature.

The Tartar invasion of 1241, which weakened the power of Hungary, and in which the crusader Coloman and the coward Zibisclav both died while under fierce attack of the Khan Ugadai, relieved the Bogomils from persecution for a short period.[15]

Bogomilism was eradicated in Bulgaria and Byzantium in the 13th century, but survived in Bosnia and Herzegovina until the Ottoman Empire gained control of the region in 1463. Both Catholics and Orthodox persecuted the Bogomils as heretics and the consequence of this fact resulted in imprisonment and enslaving of large numbers of them, which then further explains why there are records of my own people sold as slaves in a far away land, such as medieval Spain.

In the next post I will disclose my findings about the slave trade of white people as it was operational in Black Sea area and its later trans-Atlantic routes . To be more precise, we will take a closer look at the slave trade in the Crimean peninsula based around the slave-trading capital of Caffa and western coast of Africa.


[1] http://latinamericanstudies.org/slavery/perbi.pdf

[2] E.J. Glave , »The Slave-Trade in the Congo Basin«, The Century Magazine, April 1890, p. 824-837, http://www.unz.com/print/Century-1890apr-00824/

[3] For now I have assumed Homer’s legacy as authentic, though there is a certain possibility this is not true. In any case, the case presented in this post will stand firmly even if I exclude this particular reference to Homer’s work. Until I am convinced otherwise, this reference will be included.

[4] Transl. by D. AYALON, On the Eunuchs in Islam, in: “Jerusalem Studies in Arabic and Islam”, I, Jerusalem 1979, pp. 67-124, here p. 104-105: “What comes from the Western sea is the khadam Saqalib and Rumi and Frankish and Lombard boy-slaves, and Rumi and Andalusian slave-girls”.

[5] Transl. by G. Jacob, “Arabische Berichte von Gesandten an germanische Fürstenhöfe aus dem 9. und 10. Jahrhundert”, Berlin-Leipzig 1927, p. 12: “(Nach Prag) kommen aus der Stadt Krakau die Rus und die Slawen mit Waaren, und es kommen zu ihnen aus den Ländern der Türken Muhammedaner, Juden und Türken gleichfalls mit Waaren und gangbaren Münzen und führen von ihnen Sklaven, Zinn und verschiedene Felle aus”.

[6] H.G. von Mutius (ed.), “Rechtsentscheide rheinischer Rabbinen vor dem ersten Kreuzzug”,

Frankfurt/M. 1985, vol. II, pp. 45-46, 48

[7] S.D. Goitein, “A Mediterranean Society. The Jewish Communities of the Arab World as Portrayed in the Documents of the Cairo Geniza”, vol. I, Berkeley, 1967

[8] MGH, “Concilia aevi Karolini DCCCXLIII-DCCCLIX”, ed. W. Hartmann, 1984, p. 124.

[9] Habeant eciam licentiam mancipia peregrina emere et infra imperium nostrum vendere; Mancipia quoque eorum pagana nullus sub obtentu christiane religionis baptizans ab eorum servicio avertat … nec eis liceat christianum emere servum. For the full texts see A. Linder, “The Jews in the Legal Sources”, p. 333-338, 342-343, 354

[10] Tertia propter captivos et mancipia christianorum, quos mercator Iudaeus infelici auro emerat emptosque tot episcopus redimere not potuit (Johannis Canaparius, Vita s. Adalberti episcopi, cap. 12, MGH, Scriptores IV, eds. G.H. PERTZ et alia, 1841/1982, p. 586); Populus autem erat durae cervicis; servus libidinum factus, miscebatur cum cognatis et sine lege cum uxoribus multis. Mancipia christiana perfidis et Iudaeis vendebant; dies festos confusa religione observant (Brunonis Vita s. Adalberti episcopi, cap. 11, ibid., p. 600); for the scene on the bronze door of a cathedral see P. Cerny, “Das Leben des hl. Adalbert von Prag auf der Bronzetür von Gnesen”, in: P. J. HOFMANN (ed.), “Tausend Jahre Benediktiner in den Klöstern Brevnov, Braunau und Rohr”, St. Ottilien 1993, p. 157-216 (with 19 plates); Quae mulier in pauperes et captivos ante diem praecipue sui obitus opera pietatis exercebat, et multos christianos de servitute Iudeorum suis facultatibus redimebat (Gallus Anonymus, Chronicae Polonorum, liber II, cap. 1, MGH Scriptores IX, eds. G.H. PERTZ et alia, 1851/1983, p. 44). On the hagiographic topos of ransoming captives see: F. Graus, “Die Gewalt bei den Anfängen des Feudalismus und die “Gefangenenbefreiungen” der merowingischen Hagiographie”, in: “Jahrbuch für Wirtschaftsgeschichte” 1961, part 1, p. 61-156; R. Doehaerd, “The Early Middle Ages in the West, Economy and Society”, Amsterdam 1978, p. 27; D. Pelteret, “Slave raiding and slave trading in early England”, in: “Anglo-Saxon England” (1981), p. 99-114, here p. 103; W. Klingshirn, “Charity and power: Caesarius of Arles and the ransoming of captives in sub-Roman Gaul”, in: “Journal of Roman Studies” (1985), p. 183-203; H. Hoffmann, “Kirche und Sklaverei im frühen Mittelalter”, in: “Deutsches Archiv” (1986), p. 1-24, especially p. 15-16; R.M. Karras , “Slavery and Society in Medieval Scandinavia”, New Haven-London 1988, p. 203, note no. 36

[11]Adiecit autem, quod familias multorum sepe id sibi querentium Iudeis vendidit, et nec iussu suo has reddere, nec latrocinia multis a sua potestate nocentia umquam curavit compescere” (Thietmari Chronicon, liber VI, cap. 36, MGH Scriptores III, eds. G.H. Pertz et alia, 1839, p. 821- 822).

[12] Aurelia Martín Casares, “Evolution of the Origin of Slaves Sold in Spain from the Late Middle Ages till the 18th century”, SERFDOM AND SLAVERY IN THE EUROPEAN ECONOMY 11TH – 18TH CENTURIES, Firenze University Press, 2014, p.416

[13] Franjo Sanjek, “Les Chretiens Bosniaques et le Mouvement Cathare XII-XV siecles”,     Paris/Louvain, 1977, p. 71-72; Peter Patek (Suibertus), “Commentariolum de provinciae Hungariae originibus” in R. Reichert, “Monumenta Ordinis Fr. Praedicatorum Historica I”, Louvain, 1896, p. 305-308.

[14] Thomas Archidiaconus, “Historia salonitanorum pontificum”, ed. F. Rački, “Monumenta slavorum meridionalium”, t. XVI, 1894, p. 33.

[15] The sources for these particulars of the crusades against the Bogomils of Bosnia are Rainaldi, an Italian cardinal of the 16th century, whose Ecclesiastical Annals (in twelwe volumes) are a continuation of those written by cardinal Baronius, and cover the period between 1197 and 1566. There is as well Farlati, a writer of the 18th century, author of “Episcopi Bosnenses” in his Illyricum Sacrum. Both were very bitter Roman Catholics and their hatred of the “heretics,” as they called them, is manifested in almost every single line.


22 thoughts on “Unpleasant Truth of White Men Slavery in Europe

  1. I have this book/doctoral dissertation in my laptop “Egyptian and Italian Merchants in the Black Sea Slave Trade, 1260-1500” by Hannah Barker. You can find the pdf version on the internet and it has more than 400 pages. I don’t know why I downloaded the file, but it immediately came to my mind while reading this post.
    An important thing to remember is that Gazaria (Crimea) was a colony of Genoa. Of course, Gazaria comes from Khazaria and Khazaria is connected to Judaism. Genoa is also connected to Jews (Mathis covered this in his Napoleon paper). Maybe you can say the same about Venice, but Genoa seems to have a stronger connection to the Jews.
    I also want to add that the discussion of possible catastrophes and the possibility of wrong chronologies would be an important aspect if we want to understand the 10th-15th century period (according to the standard chronology). According to Gunnar Heinsohn, a great catastrophe happened in the 10th century. Even the standard narrative has the concept of “Saeculum obscurum”. The situation is even worse if you consider https://abruptearthchanges.files.wordpress.com/2018/02/01-02-2018-updated-black-death-and-abrupt-earth-changes.pdf. We get the impression that this was an unstable world due to natural causes. Maybe the Black Sea area was one of the areas where the catastrophes were even harsher and there were no strong central governments. So it would be easy to acquire slaves.
    Regarding the chronology, there is the possibility that 10th century was the actual beginning of Christianity, Islam and even Judaism (less sure about Judaism). Bogomils are connected to Paulicians. If we look harder we probably would find parallel personalities in these movements to 1st-3rd century personalities. The mainstream already says that the Paulicians wanted to return to the old good times of Paul of Tarsus. What if the Paulicians are the actual first generation of Christians. These religions spread because the catastrophes seem to be punishments from heaven. I also assume that some elite families survived and they probably had some ancient knowledge (maybe a few great centers of power survived the catastrophes without much damage). The ancient knowledge gave them a great advantage when they started to rebuild empires.

    Sorry if I booshit you too much. My initial intention was mostly to give you the name of the dissertation (lol)

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    1. Thanks to both of you for providing the reading and links. The Black Death era has always interested me; it seems like the plague would also bring a free-for-all of violence and larceny, given human nature as I understand it today. I know my own ancestors were great slave-traders, the Vikings, and it’s interesting to read more on the topic as it helps put the modern-day “booshit” racism dichotomies in perspective.

      Another perspective is one I picked up in Orson Scott Card’s “Pastwatch: the Redemption of Christopher Columbus”. While it’s a work of science fiction and Card is a bit spooky himself (Mormon, wrote “Ender’s Game” and its sequels, and most prominently “The Worthing Saga” which is just amazing), Card brings up the probability that slavery evolved from human sacrifice itself. Early tribalisms practicing human sacrifice (think Abraham and Isaac, to put it in context) may have begun slavery as an “upgrade” to the bloodletting. That is, some people captivated due to war and strife were put to work instead of put to the sword to appease the gods. Perhaps the strong became slaves, and the weak became dead. Card’s reference on the topic is part of the fiction however (Pastwatch is a group of people who travel to the past to observe humanity, thus the sci-fi nature of the story) so I don’t know if we have any evidence that this is what happened, it just seems to ring truer than not, given human nature and human sacrifice.

      This human sacrifice as a cultural phenomenon still occurs today; it’s just not the glorified Aztec-killings atop the temple pyramid. It’s wars and genocide and “holocausts” now.

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      1. What you suggest is a plausible scenario for slavery to have become a part of societal development. Or should I say, societal degradation. In any case, as noticed in Africa before certain merchants arrived there, slavery was already an existing phenomenon and in their African customs, slaves were mostly used for sacrifice or hard work. I see both aspects helping to establish slavery as completely normal without any difference. What is extremely interesting is a fact that not all nations / tribes had established slavery and built upon those benefits, so I guess development of higher morality and more sensible way to treat other human beings depends on something I cannot point my finger at. All that is left to research about is a fact that there is a division of slave owners/masters and their victims. I wasn’t able to figure out any patterns other that huge differences in development (or lack thereof) of morality and ethics.

        I’d suggest you to take that link Calgacus left about abrupt environmental changes that seem to have been going on between 13th-15th century. It really has many strong arguments in support to the theory about nature’s and consequently human madness of that particular dark era.

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    2. One section of that book on the Black Death stuck out to me enough that I thought to post it here as well:

      “According to a 1981 study, researchers believe they have documented some psychological effects of positive ions. The experiments were described by Dr. Jonathan M. Charry of Rockefeller University and Dr. Frank B. W. of Hawkinshire N.Y.U. in an issue of the Journal of Personality and Social Psychology. The apparent effects of positive ions included increased tension and irritability as well as a slowing of reaction times.

      “Much of the early research on this subject was conducted in Israel, where the sharav has a marked effect. It has been reported that 30 percent of the population becomes ill with migraine, nausea, vomiting, irritability, dimness of vision, respiratory symptoms and other effects. The symptoms are said to appear a day or two before heat and dryness become severe, but when air blowing in from the desert is already laden with positive ions.” (264)

      So almost 1/3 of the population in that area shows susceptibiity to additional electrons?


        1. Its well known that positive ions are annoying, so much that it is sold lots of machines which turns ionization in rooms negative.
          The wellbeing appearing after a heavy rain in the summer after long heat is because of this clearing of positive ions, plus the addition of ozon.


          1. You’ve mentioned ozone – I was taught that ozone is harmful if we’re in contact with it. You suggest it may be beneficial, which is why it interests me. In this world, where almost everything is turned upside-down, it’s very probable for ozone to be actually beneficial. Or is this the same example as in the case of many poisons, which may actually heal your body if consumed in miniscule dosage?


            1. Ozone, or O3 is flagged by the EPA as harmful when above 50 PPB (parts per billion) Here in the Colorado summer often 80 ppb is normal. Ozone is injected into water at high concentrations to purify it, killing germs through oxidation, then it is quickly gone before you drink it. This is a purification method I would use without hesitation. It is far more reactive than O2 and basically burns what it comes in contact with. It is a by product of high voltage negative air ionizers. I had to test many such devices to document they did not exceed the 50 ppb limit. I’d suppose it is a lot like sunburn getting too much of it. Some is good for you while too much leads to lung damage probably much like sunburn when the damage rate exceeds the recovery rate and then outweighs the benefit of the germicidal effect. Even 100 ppb did not worry me too much, but 300 or 400 ppb and you can feel it burning your lips. I used carbon filters for removal but there are also long lasting catalyst filters.


      1. Positive ion winds are associated with a rise in operating room deaths so ionizers are usually installed in operating rooms. These winds occur naturally in many locations and have names and a bad reputation. (Santa Ana winds of southern CA, Foehn Swiss, Chinook in Colorado, in Israel the Sharav, the Mistral in France, the Sirocco in Italy, the Xlokk, in Malta… ) Air circulating in metal systems like cars is pretty much electrically neutral or dead, but a ratio of 2 negatives to 1 positive in the air seems to be natural and healthy. While negative ionization produced by negative voltage ionizing pins and water mist is healthy to breathe, a high positive voltage can also produce a positive charged corona into the air. Found this link while looking for the ill-wind names that references the Fred Soyka book I found useful many years back: http://www.halexandria.org/dward079.htm

        Around 5% of people seem to enjoy the positive charged air.


        1. Thanks for the link, Alan. I’ ve read it, wanting more at the end. So if some changes in Earth’s environment caused an excess of pos-ions, people may have actually reacted to it in seemingly negative behavior / abrupt mood changes. Which may have added to higher death rate among the sick, and pushed others into general violence or accepting it as “normal” in time.

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  2. Thanks, Calgacus, will look into that source.

    I plan to cover thoroughly about Gazaria and Khazars, Reppublica di Genoa, Venetia, Karaites, etc, in my following post. And I agree, it’s sure important to note everything about that. So your comment is certainly not any BS.

    Yes, it would be very interesting to look for parallels between Bogomils / Paulicians and our propagandized Christian personalities. Maybe I will when I find some more time. Thanks for your suggestion in any case.

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  3. They tell us that many of the Valide Sultans (mothers of Sultans) were initially slave girls. You can see this wikipedia page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valide_sultan . I feel that these slave stories are booshit. On the wiki page they have a table that gives the supposed ethnicity of the Valide Sultans plus additional info. Most of them seem to be Christian at birth according to their stories. I would rather bet that the Valide Sultans were from the noble families and they just created booshit slave stories. Actually there is a legend that Naksidil Sultan was actually a distant cousin of Empress Josephine, wife of Napoleon (again we have a booshit slave story). Maybe these slave stories were useful as some kind of meritocracy propaganda. Probably there are similar stories of male slaves that achieved high rank in the Muslim world. But I tend to believe that these people are members of the crypto families and they created these slave stories to fill the history books with fantastic tales ( also useful as propaganda). Mathis already covered the fact that the crusades were not what most people believed they were. I think it would not be ridiculous to say that the Ottoman ruling families are related to the rulers of the Christian world. The first Ottoman sultans married Greek princesses (before the title of Valide Sultan existed). Mathis talked about some of these Greek families like the Komnenos. Of course we can add the story of the Sabbatai Zevi and his fellow spooks. Even before the Ottomans, we can find gems regarding Seljuk https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seljuk_(warlord) .

    I want to also add that the Balkans and the Black Sea area was and it still is an area that is targeted by these families. It was a slave area, then the elites chose this area to be the place for various controlled wars (Turko- Russian wars, Balkan wars, Crimean War etc). Crimea is still a hot spot. We can add that modern slave trade is still real in this area. Now is called human trafficking. Of course, we don’t have reliable data on the human traffic or the Crimean tensions. Probably there are many exaggerations and a lot of fakery. But, I would not jump with both of my legs into the “everything is fake” boat (past or current events).

    Since I am from Romania, I am also interested in the topics related to the Balkans, the Black Sea and East Europe.

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  4. I would like to know more about the Scandinavian’s slave trade in these Slavic areas. The “Viking’s” most profitable trade when going east seems to have been from slavery who they apparently brought mainly to Bysans and the Arabs but some were definitely also brought back to Scandinavia. Also there seems to have been some agreements between the “Vikings” or the Verinagers and the Khazars were accords where made through intermarriage. So, here we have an early connection between Scandinavians and Jews that might have resulted as a primer for Jewish infiltration of Scandinavian nobility. There is reason to believe that the lucrative slave trade in the Slavic areas was the main reason for this alliance.
    Also, I think that Calgacus mentioning of Gunnar Heinsohns revision work on the chronology of the first millennium has a lot of value. The slave trade might have been booming during this era due to severe depopulation in the 10th century, and was mitigated by the destruction of society that was the result of a severe natural catastrophe.
    The number 10 in your footnotes has a title ““Slavery and Society in Medieval Scandinavia”, New Haven-London 1988, p. 203, note no. 36” Seems interesting, wonder what could be found in that work.
    Just my thoughts.
    Many thanks Vexman, you are a great writer and researcher, looking forward to your next episode. Thanks also Calgacus.


    1. Rascasse, a “good” author that talks about the connection between the Vikings and Jews is Hugh Montgomery. One of his books is https://books.google.com/books?id=ccF81Snih_IC&pg=PA9&lpg=PA9&dq=odonic+line&source=bl&ots=V8eH9pJv73&sig=CORLv_pyC-oxpktO8tx3E0qEuTc&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwibjK-AwrfbAhXor1QKHZVfAVQQ6AEIKTAA#v=onepage&q=odonic%20line&f=false. He talks about the Odonic line. I say that Montgomery is “good” because from his name you can deduce that he is part of the families (Montgomery members were among the Norman invaders). He actually tells us himself in his books (one of his books has a review made by a Serbian princess). He also tells about his discussions with a noble noble from Georgia. So you should expect misdirection. For example in his book on the Norman invasion, he actually tells us that everybody was related (Normandy, England, Norway or Denmark). But he doesn’t put out the idea that maybe the invasion was orchestrated from both sides . I believe that he also has a negative view of the Catholic church, while he has a positive view of the Odonic line (of course he is a member of the families). But I would bet that the Catholic leadership is and was from the same families. See for example Julian of Toledo. I should point out that there are a few video presentations made by Montgomery on youtube.

      I also discovered that there is a duke called Wladyslaw Odonic (House of Piast), from Poland. Mathis already talked about Vasa and Jagiellon. This Odonic is before the period discussed by Mathis. Mathis also covered some of the Byzantine families. An interesting character from the Byzantine empire is Leo 4 the Khazar and his wife Tzitzak. The Varangian guard was an elite Byzantine military group. So the Khazars, Byzantines and Vikings were all connected. The question of chronology, duplicate biographies and other problems makes it hard to find the true narrative behind all these characters. We can call all these things fake and go back to sleep. But, this would be a weak solution in my opinion.


  5. Many thanks Calgacus for your vital respons to my quest for information on this hazy subject of the past. I will indeed read that book. Your warning for misdirection is probably right since on the back page it mentions that Montgomery has shown that Odin is related to Jesus Christ himself. Perhaps that tidbit is one thing of what you mean by his negativ view of the Catholic church. But for sure it probably takes a member of the families to be able write about this long past era. I also agree about the problems with duplicate biographies etc. due to incorrect chronology.
    For example; in Sweden and especially on Gotland, coins of roman origin is a very common finding when treasures of silver is unearthed, although these findings are always dated in the established chronology as from the 8th to 11th century and it doesn’t add up that such already old coins were in frequent use that many centuries after they were coined.


  6. I’m still eagerly awaiting your next essay on this topic, Vexman, so I hope you haven’t given up on it! 🙂

    I’ve spent the time reading and researching that book on the Black Death, which I’ll repost the ink to here in case anyone missed it. Fascinating stuff. It’s pushed me into new research in almost every paragraph, from the sinkholes in Siberia to chemical compositions of various toxic gases.



    1. I’m not nearly done with Part II, so you’ll have to be a bit more patient. I’m mostly busy with things that are much less fun than writing or researching, but that’s how it goes. For now, anyway.

      Cool, I’ve read that PDF as well. Fascinating it is, I agree. The best new find of 2018 in my case.

      While you wait for my next post and if you have some extra time on your hands, check out the work of Charles Verlinden. He’s an absolute authority on medieval slave trade.


  7. I enjoyed very much the book on the Black Death.

    Calcagus has a few words about false datation who could have occured after these times, that, in my opinion, could be part of the effort the catholic autorithies made to regain power. I would like to remind you the work of french François de Sarre who, while working on the different changes that occured to the official religious calendars, came to the conclusion of catastrophic events in the Dark Ages.

    here is the french written book dating 2006 : http://cerbi.ldi5.com/IMG/pdf/Ou_est_donc_passe_le_Moyen-Age.pdf


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